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Friday, August 18th 2006, 4:38am

How Many Classes Do I Take Each Semester

For the MSc, you have to have 120 credit points. 30 of these points are for the Mastersarbeit.

At what point am I expected to start my Mastersarbeit?

Will I spread the 90 course credits over four years and work on my Mastersarbeit at the same time?

Or will I get the course work done in 3 semesters, then spend the fourth writing my Mastersarbeit?

What is the average number of courses that students take?

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Friday, August 18th 2006, 7:40am

Hi Phill,

most of us spread the 90 credit points for the courses over the first three semesters. It´s about 7 or 8 courses each semester.

You are not allowed to start with your master thesis until you have collected at least 75 credit points. So normally the thesis is written in the 4th semester.
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Friday, August 18th 2006, 8:19am

That's what I was thinking, but that sounds like a lot of classes. Here, a graduate student would take maybe 3 courses. I guess the amount of content per class is greater.

Anyway, is there any kind of recommended mixture of Vorlesungen and Seminars?

I really don't look forward to the Seminars, because of the requirement for presenting a topic. I'd prefer to have a semester to get used to the language and to take an upper level German course for practice, but it seems like taking only Vorlesungen would be difficult--although I plan on taking KI:1 which is a lower level course and Compiler Construction, which I already have some experience with, so they should be pretty easy... And I'm thinking about taking an English class :)

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Friday, August 18th 2006, 8:42am

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Anyway, is there any kind of recommended mixture of Vorlesungen and Seminars?

I really don't look forward to the Seminars, because of the requirement for presenting a topic. I'd prefer to have a semester to get used to the language and to take an upper level German course for practice, but it seems like taking only Vorlesungen would be difficult--although I plan on taking KI:1 which is a lower level course and Compiler Construction, which I already have some experience with, so they should be pretty easy... And I'm thinking about taking an English class :)
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Do not take an English class. Such a course won't look good on your master's certificate ...

In general, there is no recommendation what courses to take in the master's program. My personal recommendation is that you choose two or (at most) three fields ("Fächer") of your interest in that you take (nearly) every course possible. This will give your studies a clear direction. Additionally I can recommend you to make a complete list of courses you want take in the whole master's program before you start. This avoids "design errors". Also you should have a look at the requirements stated in the Prüfungsordnung and Studienordnung, see http://www.uni-hannover.de/de/studium/st…atik/ordnungen/ for details.
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Friday, August 18th 2006, 8:53am

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Do not take an English class. Such a course won't look good on your master's certificate ...

In general, there is no recommendation what courses to take in the master's program. My personal recommendation is that you choose two or (at most) three fields ("Fächer") of your interest in that you take (nearly) every course possible. This will give your studies a clear direction. Additionally I can recommend you to make a complete list of courses you want take in the whole master's program before you start. This avoids "design errors". Also you should have a look at the requirements stated in the Prüfungsordnung and Studienordnung, see http://www.uni-hannover.de/de/studium/st…atik/ordnungen/ for details.

yeah, I've planned out a few areas of concentration, but I'm mainly concerned with this first semester. I just don't know if I want to have to give 3-4 presentations my first semester. I know it's not that bad, but I just don't feel too great about it.

How terrible would a presentation have to be to cause someone to fail a seminar?
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Friday, August 18th 2006, 9:09am

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yeah, I've planned out a few areas of concentration, but I'm mainly concerned with this first semester. I just don't know if I want to have to give 3-4 presentations my first semester. I know it's not that bad, but I just don't feel too great about it.
Then take just a single seminar in the first semester to get accustomed to it.

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I've seen a lot of really painful presentations in the last years but most of the presenters passed the course. :)

You should be well prepared when giving the presentation and able to ask questions about the topic. Then nobody will complain about it.

I think that some professors really would like to have an English presentation in their seminar. You should ask about that. Nearly every scientific publication in computer science is written in English today.
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yeah, I've planned out a few areas of concentration, but I'm mainly concerned with this first semester. I just don't know if I want to have to give 3-4 presentations my first semester. I know it's not that bad, but I just don't feel too great about it.
Then take just a single seminar in the first semester to get accustomed to it.

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I've seen a lot of really painful presentations in the last years but most of the presenters passed the course. :)

You should be well prepared when giving the presentation and able to ask questions about the topic. Then nobody will complain about it.

I think that some professors really would like to have an English presentation in their seminar. You should ask about that. Nearly every scientific publication in computer science is written in English today.


You think they might let me present in English? That would be awesome. I could do 8 Seminars this semester if it can be English. :) I'll ask about that soon.

One more question...

I've been trying to plan my schedule for this semester, but only a couple of courses have updated information about the courses, so I can't really plan anything yet. When do class times and such usually get updated?

If I remember how things were when I was an Austauschstudent at Regensburg, in Germany you normally don't register until the beginning of the semester, but here, we schedule our courses at the end of the previous semester, so I feel like I need to have a schedule! I know I don't, but it just doesn't feel right without it.
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Friday, August 18th 2006, 9:44am

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I've been trying to plan my schedule for this semester, but only a couple of courses have updated information about the courses, so I can't really plan anything yet. When do class times and such usually get updated?
Usually the Vorlesungsverzeichnis gets published 2–4 weeks before the first day of each semester. You will find it here then.
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Thanks for the help!
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Friday, August 18th 2006, 10:29am

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I'd prefer to have a semester to get used to the language and to take an upper level German course for practice, but it seems like taking only Vorlesungen would be difficult.


Why you don't practice here? Man muss nicht immer Kurse belegen um etwas zu lernen. Vorallem der Kontakt zu deutschsprachigen wird mehr helfen.
Aber zurück zum Thema: Es ist auch von Vorteil, Seminare und Projekte über alle Semester zu verteilen. So vermindert man ein wenig die Anzahl der Prüfungen pro Semester, denn die Prüfungen der Vorlesungen sind in der vorlesungsfreien Zeit, während die Arbeit für Seminare und Projekte in der Vorlesungszeit liegt. Eine Mischung von Vorlesungen und den anderen Dingen ist somit die optimale Lastverteilung über das Semester.

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Präsentationsstil et cetera sind zum Glück sprachunabhängig. Somit solltest Du damit keine Probleme haben? Wenn man sich einmal nicht sofort und optimal ausdrücken kann, wird einem daraus wohl auch kein Strick gedreht. Die Dozenten haben ja auch Verständnis. Wichtiger ist zu zeigen, dass man das Thema verstanden hat und Ahnung davon hat, also die Eigenleistung sichtbar ist.
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I'd prefer to have a semester to get used to the language and to take an upper level German course for practice, but it seems like taking only Vorlesungen would be difficult.


Why you don't practice here? Man muss nicht immer Kurse belegen um etwas zu lernen. Vorallem der Kontakt zu deutschsprachigen wird mehr helfen.

Das mache ich ziemlich oft. Wenn es aber eine wichtige Frage ist, würde ich lieber Englisch benutzen, so dass ich 100% richtig verstehen kann. Auch kann ich hier mein sprachliches Deutsch leider nicht üben. Ab 18.9 werde ich in Deutschland sein, und dann wird es anders sein.
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